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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:01 pm 
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Hello it seems that byoc places schematic errors to prevent others from using their schematics. Maybe im wrong but the 2 Ive tried to build had errors on the schematic and not the board. Just seems odd to do that from a company that makes their living from b clones.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:52 pm 
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I should probably just let Keith or Nick reply (and I hope one or both will), but I'm SURE this is not true. Given the sheer number of effects BYOC has offered, both currently and over the years, and the complexity of 20 - 30 page instruction PDFs and accompanying schematics, some errors and oversights are pretty much inevitable. Also, as soon as an error is brought to Nick's attention, he jumps on the fix....usually posting a correction to the web site the same day. That just doesn't seem to be the kind of response you'd expect from an outfit that's trying to hide something.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:06 pm 
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Yeah, as DVM said, they're simply mistakes. If you let us know which ones are mistaken, I'll put them on a list and fix them. Aside from the fact that the circuits we clone have schematics that are available all over the internet (for the most part), if we wanted to mislead or keep people in the dark about the circuits, we wouldn't make the schems freely available. The idea that we would put schems on the website with errors on purpose would defeat our goal of producing and selling DIY effects for anyone that wants to build effects, not just seasoned builders.

That said, which schematics do you think are in error, and which sections? I will verify with the CAD files and update any schematics that have circuit breaking errors.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:10 pm 
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I'm trying to upload pictures, on the soaring skillet BOM it states 7 470k resistors, searching the schematic I could only find 5. Looking at the board pictures next to the 2 5952's I see 2 474 resistors. On thre schematic they are 47k. I suspect these are those, maybe I wrong. Thre resistors in question are r44,r53. I'm not sure if pictures will upload.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:33 pm 
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The interesting bit about that is that there was an updated schem on our shared drive. It must not have made it into the PDF conversion procedure. So I uploaded the fixed schem, and put it into the instruction file.

You mentioned a second schem that you found issues with. Which one is that?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:46 pm 
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On the divided octave thre is a resistor labeled 22n t56. I used 22ohm I think it's 22k.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:36 pm 
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Brownmule wrote:
On the divided octave thre is a resistor labeled 22n t56. I used 22ohm I think it's 22k.

"22n" would be a capacitor, not a resistor (which are generally not labeled anyway). And T56 sounds like a manufacturing code.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 26, 2019 2:44 pm 
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I meant r57, sorry


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:50 am 
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A casual glance through the forums here will show many instances of customers pointing out errors and BYOC correcting them immediately. It is not done on purpose.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:30 pm 
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I can say for myself at GuitarPCB 10 years later I still make the occasional minor mistake.
You think you covered everything and you have 3 moderators individually double check your work and since not everybody reads a schematic to build a project (which I recommend at every level) occasionally small things can get overlooked.
It doesn't happen often but it can happen.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:50 pm 
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Are you suggesting that we put intentional errors in the schematics to mess with people who don't buy our kits and/or PCB, but use our schematics to build their own pedals from scratch?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:54 am 
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wow, that's some tin foil hat shit right there

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CaptainPeyote wrote:
wow, that's some tin foil hat shit right there

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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duhvoodooman wrote:
CaptainPeyote wrote:
wow, that's some tin foil hat shit right there

:lol: :lol: :lol:


+2 :lol:

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